E-Junkie Forum http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/ E-Junkie Forum RSS en-us Copyright 2008, 19.5 Degrees. All rights reserved. webmaster@e-junkie.com webmaster@e-junkie.com Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:17:42 GMT Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:18:12 GMT 681 E-JUNKIE 5 E-Junkie Forum http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/ http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/logo.gif 290 104 Post #11 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:17:42 GMT
However as one caveat, I do not now what the rate tables look like in the API so I cannot vouch for that.

I am in support of some better shipping options for those of us that are tangible good sellers. I too have waited and waited for any enhancements in the shipping calculation that e-junkie offers only to hear that "they are working on it". In Tyson's defense once again I would rather it be right and not break the existing system that be buggy because it was launched too soon. However I know that this kind of functionality is offered in other shopping cart solutions and it would be nice for e-junkie to be more competitive in this area.

And what about those rate discounts for us tangible good sellers that you guys were talking about? It has been months and months that I am paying a high price and not using any storage space on the server for downloads! Lets get something going here and implement some changes for the better!

Thanks for hearing me out :)]]> E-junkie Discussions; Logonwheeler Post #10 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:38:01 GMT gibbywmuPrintmeiser,

Do you know of any other shopping carts that are not too expensive, that integrate with USPS, UPS, or Fed Ex?

Scott

The other carts that I've spent the most time testing were e-junkie and shopify. Shopify is a bit more expensive monthly, but they just added an MP3 download module called fetch that is really good. The downside is that their cart has absolutely no reporting, and when you ask them about the lack of reports they seem to think it's unimportant.

From what I've seen all the newer carts that have great potential completely fall apart in either their shipping or reporting. They cant even give you a basic monthly sales report, which to me (as a person with a degree in computer science) doesn't seem like too much to ask. I wanted to switch to shopify myself but it wouldnt be worth it because of all the extra accounting time that would have to be spent.]]> E-junkie Discussions; printmeister Post #9 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:29:34 GMT Tyson_N
Our default Shipping calculation queries the USPS rate API directly, and USPS does indeed rate by the ounce. Most of our original Merchants (who only shipped one item at a time or only had one product line to sell at a time) just wanted the cheapest USPS rate that was universally-applicable (no specialized services with rules/conditions/limitations like Media Mail or Parcel Post), so we query USPS for First Class and Priority Mail rates and apply whichever rate is cheaper.

This is simply not true. Please look at this:

http://pe.usps.com/search/jsp/search/vv_docread.jsp?k2dockey=http%3A%2F%2Fpe.usps.com%2Ftext%2Fdmm300%2Fratesandfees.htm%40PE_DMM300_HTML_5&serverSpec=56.0.145.56:9920&QueryParser=Simple&querytext=%28weight%3CAND%3Echart%29&dtype=2#hit0

This is what USPS publishes on their website. It has the shipping rates by POUND. Therefore, yours should be by the pound, not make us convert everything into ounces. If you walk into a United States post office to mail a package, they do it by pounts.

Also, Fed Ex has charts just like these that are by POUNDS. Not ounces. This is what we are looking for.

Tyson_NFinally, we do have some enhancements to Shipping in the works that should give you more fine control over shipping options and charges; look for formal announcement of any new features in our Service Status & Updates forum category here:
http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/forum/6


Are these enhancements going to be in response to what people have been asking for? I see a bunch of Paypal threads in that forum.]]> E-junkie Discussions; printmeister Post #8 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:06:31 GMT gibbywmuTyson,

Im sorry, but that is WAY to complicated for the average user. Too many options to deal with. It would just be nice to have the integration to UPS and Fed Ex to make it easier, instead of E Junkie always using USPS Priority, or E Junkie needs a weight based matrix.

For this reason, I am considering using another shopping cart like Fortun 3 or 3d Cart.

i agree completely. It's way too complicated, and it's not even necessary. I wouldn't care if you kept that functionality but allowed users to decide how they calculate their own shipping via shipping charts.

I signed up for the trial in January from jan to march i was never able to get the e-junkie shipping to work, even with extreme trickery. I posted this question in January and i do think it's pretty sad that it's taken 6 full months for anybody to reply.

I ended my trial and gave up too. I check back every month or two to see if there's been any progress.]]> E-junkie Discussions; printmeister Post #7 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:00:33 GMT
Im sorry, but that is WAY to complicated for the average user. Too many options to deal with. It would just be nice to have the integration to UPS and Fed Ex to make it easier, instead of E Junkie always using USPS Priority, or E Junkie needs a weight based matrix.

For this reason, I am considering using another shopping cart like Fortun 3 or 3d Cart.]]> E-junkie Discussions; gibbywmu Post #6 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:53:20 GMT
Our default Shipping calculation queries the USPS rate API directly, and USPS does indeed rate by the ounce. Most of our original Merchants (who only shipped one item at a time or only had one product line to sell at a time) just wanted the cheapest USPS rate that was universally-applicable (no specialized services with rules/conditions/limitations like Media Mail or Parcel Post), so we query USPS for First Class and Priority Mail rates and apply whichever rate is cheaper.

If you are using this standard USPS Shipping calculation method (and have not overridden it with any custom per-oz. Domestic or Int'l rates entered in Seller Admin), if your shipping zipcode is correct, and if the weights of your fully-wrapped product units and fully-padded empty container types are all accurate, then our Shipping calc will always return an accurate USPS cost for whichever is cheaper between First Class vs. Priority.

If you would rather use flat-rate Priority Mail boxes, you can specify those flat rates as the cost for the various container types and leave your other per-oz. rate and weight settings set at 0.00, then configure each product's shipping with how many units of that product can ship in which type of container.

You may find it useful to know that the Tube container types can combine different products into one parcel. This was intended to allow various posters/art of different sizes to be shipped together in one tube of the largest size ordered, but you can also take advantage of this (even if you're not literally shipping in tubes) to combine products into one parcel for shipping.

Also, it may be helpful to know the basic formula we apply to calculate shipping:

((cost per oz.) X (product wt. + package wt.)) + (package cost) + (handling cost)

The (cost per oz.) part would be determined either by standard USPS rates (if you have your zipcode and no custom shipping cost per oz. entered in Seller Admin > Cart Shipping Settings), or otherwise by a flat per-oz. rate you specify for Domestic or for International shipping. If you are using a custom per-oz. rate instead of USPS rates, there's no reason you can't actually specify a per-lb./kg rate, with product and container weights configured on that same basis as well, since we just multiply your custom rate by your combined weights.

While UPS and FedEx also have their own rate APIs, they each have their own extensive and proprietary documentation that we would have to read and learn thoroughly first, and while it would be technically possible to modify or extend our codebase to integrate with those at some point (and we recognize the desirability of this), "possible" does not mean "quick" or "easy". Our foremost concern is that we must never modify our codebase in a way that would break any existing functionality for our existing Merchants, and never introduce any new features haphazardly that have not been thorougly tested and ensured to work properly, both on their own and in combination with our other functionalities. Adding UPS/FedEx will need to be approached with painstaking care and strategy when we do finally decide we are ready, able, and fully-informed enough to tackle those hurdles.

Finally, we do have some enhancements to Shipping in the works that should give you more fine control over shipping options and charges; look for formal announcement of any new features in our Service Status & Updates forum category here:
http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/forum/6]]> E-junkie Discussions; Tyson Post #5 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:49:44 GMT
You couldnt have said it any better! I wanted someone to post this along time ago, I just dont have the time to write it up, but thats great!

I cant stand E-Junkie's shipping methods, you either have to OVERCHARGE or UNDERCHARGE on shipping, theres no "happy medium" for customers. I would like a weight based chart, to enter in pound, not ounces, and incorporate a Fed Ex option.

This would be so much easier than having to convert everything from ounces!! Its a real pain.

Do you know of any other shopping carts that are not too expensive, that integrate with USPS, UPS, or Fed Ex?

Scott]]> E-junkie Discussions; gibbywmu Post #4 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 03:15:58 GMT
I setup my charts in Paypal Standard, and while it says that the shipping will be calculated at check out, i've yet to see it pop-up. DOes this mean it's either not getting the weight from E-Junkie? Has anybody else tried this as a work around?

Somebody...help the printmeister out.]]> E-junkie Discussions; printmeister Post #3 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:59:22 GMT
hopefully somebody can make it happen...its a great cart and really the current shipping module is the only flaw i really see in it.]]> E-junkie Discussions; printmeister Post #2 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:17:18 GMT E-junkie Discussions; Brui Post #1 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1540/pg/0#post6905 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:16:26 GMT
As I am sure you all are aware, USPS, FEDEX, and most other shopping carts publish their information in weight charts. The values in these weight charts are easily transferred into the shopping cart, thus reliable. E-junkie does not use weight charts and it seems to have went almost out of its way to avoid them. My question is this: are there any plans to incorporate shipping charts like every other shopping cart so that users dont have to "back in" to their shipping costs (thus lose money by either over-charging or undercharging our customers)?

Here are the reasons why doing it the current way are confusing/ineffective:

1. COST PER OUNCE - all shipping charts/weight charts are published by the pound or kg, not by the ounce. This requires another set of conversions before you can even get to your number and adds to the confusion. Is there any discussion about changing this to reflect what the shipping companies and other shipping charts are using?

2. USPS look up/Forced Standard - In most instances priority mail is the shipping method of choice for people using usps. I'm really confused as to why it looks up the standard rate w/o giving you the option to determine what it's looking up. For me personally it would be better to do completely away with the USPS look-up and just give the users the ability to enter weight charts on their own. Is this something you all would consider for a future update?

I guess what I'm looking for is some idea as to whether e-junkie has plans to fix the shipping module because I love the product but incorrect shipping can make or break a business, and could be a deal-breaker for people with businesses that rely on extended/variable weight shipping.

Thanks.]]> E-junkie Discussions; printmeister