2checkout button

[smc1979]

After finding out paypal wont let you block credit card payments and only does fraud checks if you buy their monthly pro I decided to go with 2checkout. Which is great so far as it doesnt cost extra to have the fraud checks.



So since paypal wont let me block credit card payments (I am doing this because of the charge back fees they do) I have removed paypal as a payment option. However 2checkout does have paypal as a payment option when paying through them, which is great and I get the fraud checks.



So the button on the e-junkie cart says pay with credit card, but paypal is also an option.



Would it be possible to simply add another image that says "pay with credit card or paypal" so my users wont think that paypal isnt an option with 2checkout?



Right now the image is misleading

https://www.e-junkie.com/ej/ejc/btncc_vmad.gif



When paypal is also an option with them.



I tried to see if there was a way to control the image for that part of the shopping cart but so far I can only find code to change the image at the top.



Shane

[E-junkie_Guru]

You can use our cart customization code to replace the checkout button images used in the cart:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/help.custom-cart.htm



E.g., if you only wish to replace the button shown for card-based checkouts, you would add the following to your View Cart code on every page, just before the "// -->" line in the standard View Cart code:



function EJEJC_config() {

EJEJC_POSTCALL=true;

}

function EJEJC_shown() {

jQuery("#btnCC").attr("src", "http://yourdomain/yourimage");

}

[smc1979]

Thanks!



I looked over that page 3 times, how the crap did I miss the #btnCC lol



Shane

[smc1979]

Just wanted to let you know I used your advice and it works. And 2checkout offers a logo you an use that shows the credit cards and paypal like I want.



You guy should consider updating your button for them since they do have paypal as an option :-)

Their logo is https://www.2checkout.com/upload/images/paymentlogoshorizontal.png

More at the bottom of this page

http://help.2checkout.com/articles/KnowledgeArticle/Compliance-Guidelines/



function EJEJC_config() {

EJEJC_POSTCALL=true;

}

function EJEJC_shown() {

jQuery("#btnCC").attr("src", "https://www.2checkout.com/upload/images/paymentlogoshorizontal.png");

}



Thanks again!



Shane

[E-junkie_Guru]

Buyers probably would not recognize that alternate image as a button they can click to checkout with a credit card, and 2CO apparently only intends that image to be something you can place in your site to indicate what payment methods you accept, not something buyers would click to actually pay and place their order.



Also, if you have enabled PayPal as a checkout option for your E-junkie cart, it would be best if you disable that for your 2CO checkouts, so you'd only be using 2CO for card-based payments. The PayPal checkout button in your cart would indicate to buyers that they can pay with PayPal, so they'd just click that button if that's what they prefer.

[smc1979]

I only have paypal enabled right now till I find out if I will keep using 2checkout with e-junkie. Turns out e-junkie doesnt fully support 2checkout, so the order gets put through before the fraud check is done.



So I had my first fraud one with 2 checkout and e-junkie sent the key code anyways even though it failed. I was on the phone with 2-checkout and e-junkie doesn't support using their ins which is needed to get the fraud info.



They said http://magento.com does support their ins and fraud checks and I could look into that.



In fact their setup in the 2checkout side is different than yours as well



" Sign in to your 2Checkout account

Click on the Account tab and User Management subtab

Click the Create Username link and create a new username with API Access and API Updating selected for the Access type

Click the Account tab and Site Management subcategory

Under Direct Return select Header Redirect

Enter your Secret Word (Must be the same value entered in your Magento admin.)

Click Save Changes

Click the Notifications tab

Enable the Order Created and Fraud Status Changed messages

Enter http://www.yourdomain.com/index.php/tco/notification/ins

(replace http://www.yourdomain.com with your actual site URL) in the URL fields

Save your changes"



There is no point in using 2checkout with e-junkie if the keycode is still sent even if the order is marked as fraud later.



Paypal is a rip and 2checkout doesn't fully work with you guys. Not sure what the best next move is.



Anyway at all e-junkie will ever support 2checkout fully and their ins so the orders dont go through till the fraud checks are done?



Thanks for your time :-)



Shane

[E-junkie_Guru]

It's not quite accurate that we don't "fully" support 2CO. They simply offer a choice of different methods for integrating with them, of which their INS is one method, and we just happen to use a different method that ensures we receive payment confirmation immediately when the buyer proceeds from checkout to their thank-you/download page.



Supporting 2CO INS would not prevent us from fulfilling orders which are later discovered to be fraudulent, as 2CO would still notify us of successful payment at the time of checkout, so by the time they detect something fraudulent about the order and notify us of that via INS, we would already have issued links/codes to the buyer. Also, since our system is designed for instant-gratification fulfillment of orders immediately following checkout, we don't have any way of delaying fulfillment of orders for an arbitrary period to wait on post-checkout fraud checks.



If you are reselling codes that you have purchased at wholesale from another source, you might investigate whether they have a way to report stolen or fraudulently-purchased codes and possibly get credit back for those. You might also consider disabling "Let buyer edit quantity" for your codes product(s), so fraudulent buyers wanting to make off with multiple codes would need to risk making multiple purchases that could raise a red flag about suspicious payment activity.

[smc1979]

I was on the phone with 2checkout for an hour. So far it seems to be a blame game back and fourth.



I know that when Google checkout was live it worked perfect, the order didn't send the complete flag till they finished processing the order, as any payment processor should do.



2checkout doesn't work like that. Where your directions have us set the e-junkie link in the 2checkout account panel that is used for when the order is done that you can send a person to a thanks for your order page. That isn't meant as the finish of the order.



So since having the e-junkie link there as soon as the order is done being placed e-junkie thinks it is done when it isn't. About 5 min later I will get an email about the fraud check and if it passed or not.



So 2checkout decided to do it differently than everyone else. And the only way to get the fraud check is complete and passed flag is through their ins programming, which e-junkie doesn't support.



They told me they have gotten a lot of phone calls from e-junkie users and that e-junkie simply doesn't properly support and work with their system fully.



Which of course when I tell e-junkie I am told yes you do and it is on their end.



But as of right now the way e-junkie works with them you have use putting the link into what is suppose to be a thanks for your order page. That section 2checkout doesn't send a successful order, it just says that the order was completed, thus why it is meant as a thank you page link, not a order is verified and good to go.



I am not reselling codes, they are my own key codes for my 2 programs. e-junkie works fine for paypal as paypal doesnt send the order is totally good to go till they finish it, but paypal doesnt do any fraud checks unless you pay them $30 a month. Google checkout worked great with you guys and didnt send the order complete flag till the fraud checks where done. 2checkout doesn't do it that way at all and sends a order completed which is meant for a thank you page, not that the order is good and finished. 2checkout makes it harder and requires you to use their ins to properly support the fraud checks before knowing if the order is really good to go.



So it is a pain on both ends, 2checkout for making you use their ins for fraud checks with the checkout and for e-junkie for not supporting their ins. So it is true that e-junkie doesn't fully support them because you are using what is suppose to be a thank you page link to finish the order.



I like e-junkie, always worked fine with paypal and Google checkout. I will continue to use e-junkie. Just wish you guys had more payment processor options as 2checkout defeats the purpose of the fraud checks as e-junkie sends the code before the fraud check is even done.



Shane

[bwesole]

Yeah, Shane you are very right to say E-junkie should create an optional button with the words pay with pay pal/ credit card. It's no rocket science.



I've requested several times for such a button because their customized code didn't work for me and their gurus failed failed to help. all they say is add a note on website that pay pal is available. Really?



I receive questions from customers everyday asking if pay pal is available so what happens to those who don't have time to ask? They move on Period. And why does this happen? because of the misleading pay with credit card button as if that's the only option.



EJUNKIE, KINDLY LEARN TO TAKE ADVISE OTHERWISE YOU'RE VERY FRUSTRATING.



SHANE THANKS FOR THAT LINK TO 2CHECKOUT IMAGE SHOWING ALL PAYMENT OPTIONS. THOUGH IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A BUTTON, I'LL GIVE IT A TRY.

[E-junkie_Guru]

Bwesole, I found your support ticket history where we engaged in extensive discussion explaining how to replace your standard checkout button with a custom button graphic. We can only provide detailed instructions, explanations and guidance, with the expectation that our sellers will be willing and able to follow our directions, especially for custom needs such as yours; we cannot be expected to just do everything for you.



Also, the current backend integration method between 2CO and E-junkie does not support the option for buyers to pay with PayPal during checkout at 2CO's end. That only works with a completely different backend integration method that 2CO just rolled out this year, after our current integration with them was set up about a year ago. You can, however, set up your E-junkie account to accept PayPal payments and offer that option to buyers in your shopping cart before they proceed to checkout.

[bwesole]

Well, the codes failed to work for some reason.

Yet I use the same procedure adsense and other affiliate links of copying, pasting the codes and save and they've never failed yo work so I don't know what to make of that.

One of your representatives was so supportive that he gave me the exact codes and it was a matter of pasting and saving but it still failed.

It wasn't my first failed experience with ejunkie coding. Comprehensive integration with 2checkout. Failed so I painfully, manually send links for Digital downloads to customers.

I was tossed between the two customer representative each apportioning the blame and responsibility for failed integration to the other until I gave up without a solution..

[bwesole]

BwesoleWell, the codes failed to work for some reason.

Yet I use the same procedure with adsense and other affiliate links codes of copying, pasting and saving the codes and they've never failed to work so I don't know what to make of that.

One of your representatives was so supportive that he gave me the exact codes and it was a matter of pasting and saving but it still failed.

It wasn't my first failed experience with ejunkie coding. Comprehensive integration with 2checkout failed completely so I painfully, manually send links for Digital downloads to customers.

I was tossed between the two customer representatives each apportioning the blame and responsibility for failed integration to the other until I gave up without a solution..

[E-junkie_Guru]

It appears that after we provided the exact customization code to paste into your page, however you attempted doing so, that code didn't actually wind up in your live page. Knowing or learning how to paste/edit the code in your page is your responsibility. In this particular case it was a moot point anyway, as you wanted to display a custom checkout button that mentioned PayPal when that payment option would not be available during checkout at 2CO's end. We can only offer buyers a choice of PayPal or card checkout in our shopping cart before they proceed to checkout.



As for links apparently not being issued after your 2CO checkouts, leading you to issue links manually, it doesn't appear that you ever contacted us about that issue, but if you had, we would gladly have helped you troubleshoot to fix it. The troubleshooting steps on this help page cover all the most probable causes of such a problem:

http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/trouble.2checkout.htm